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Επιστροφή στο Forum : Sheffield [Selda, Sheffield, Huseyniye, Seyyar]



Nicholas Peppas
09-05-2010, 17:10
Sheffield was an old British passenger/cargo ship that was active in the Mediterranean in the 1919-1922 period. She belonged to J. Constant of Grimsby at that time. In that, Miramar is incorrect... It gives the impression that after the Ottoman Navy, the ship went directly to Turkish buyers, something that is not correct!



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Name: SHEFFIELD Keel:
Type: Passenger/cargo Launch Date: 13.1.77
Flag: GBR Date of completion:
Tons: 644 Link: 1556
DWT: Yard No: 212
Length overall: Ship Design:
LPP: 61.3 Country of build: GBR
Beam: 8.3 Builder: Elder
Material of build: I Location of yard: Govan
Number of screws/Mchy/ Speed(kn): 1C-
Naval or paramilitary marking : A: * End: 1961
Subsequent History: 14 SELDA - 19 SHEFFIELD - 26 HUSEYNIYE - 31 SEYYAR
Disposal Data: BU Istanbul 7.61

SHEFFIELD 644 1877 Manchester Sheffield
SELDA 644 1914 Ottoman Navy TUR
HUSEYNIYE 644 1926 I. Huseyin Rustem
SEYYAR 644 1931 V.E. Dimitriades



Clydebuilt gives a more accurate view



ss SHEFFIELDbuilt by John Elder & Co Govan,
Yard No 212
Last Name: SEYYAR (1931)
Previous Names: HUSEYNIYE (1926) SHEFFIELD (1919) SELDA (1914)
Launched: Saturday, 13/01/1877
Built: 1877
Ship Type: Cargo Vessel
Tonnage: 644 grt
Length: 201 feet
Breadth: 27.1 feet
Owner History:
Manchester Sheffield & Lincolnshire Railway Company, Grimsby
1897 Great Central Railway, Grimsby
1910 Patriotic SS Co., London
1911 Jos. Constant, Grimsby
1914 Ottoman Navy transport
1919 J.Constant, Grimsby
1926 onwards various Turkish owners
Status: Sold for Scrapping - 07/1961

Remarks: Seized at Constantinople 23/11/1914, returned 1919
withdrawn from service 1953, broken up 1961



The ship was a Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway ship originally doing the route of Grimsby to Rotterdam or Antwerpen.

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The Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire Railway Company also known as the Great Central Railway was first formed in 1847 to run a service between New Holland (Lincs) and Hull. In 1865 they commenced steamship services to Hamburg by taking over the Anglo-French Steam Ship Company.

Then, in 1866, they commenced Grimsby - Rotterdam service, and in 1867 Grimsby - Antwerp service. The Hamburg service became daily in 1891.

In 1897 the company was renamed the Great Central Railway. The company became part of the London & North Eastern Railway Company in 1923.

Schedule of Sheffield from May 27, 1919

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Ellinis
07-11-2010, 16:30
Οπως σωστά αναφέρει το clydebuilt το SHEFFIELD έμεινε σε αιχμαλωσία από τους Τούρκους, από το 1914 ως το 1919. Όταν επέστρεψε στον ιδιοκτήτη του, χρησίμευσε για λίγο ως ακτοπλοϊκό εντός και εκτός Ελλάδος.

Εδώ το βρίσκουμε το Μάη του 1919 να διαφημίζεται (ναυλωμένο ίσως) από την Ατμ. Γ. Μυλωνάδη & Υιών, για μεταφορά εμπορευμάτων στη Μαύρη Θάλασσα.

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Το 1932 το πλοίο θα περάσει για ένα χρόνο στην ιδιοκτησία του Κωνσταντινουπολίτη Β. Δημητριάδη (στον οποίο είχαμε αναφερθεί και εδώ (http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=382536&postcount=5)) και θα μετονομαστεί SEYYAR.
Αργότερα θα περάσει στην κρατική ατμοπλοϊκή εταιρεία της Τουρκίας για την οποία ταξίδεψε ως το 1953. Τότε παροπλίστηκε μέχρι που διαλύθηκε το 1961.

Και μια φωτογραφία του ως SEYYAR.

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Ellinis
09-01-2017, 23:08
Tο πλοίο είχε απασχολήσει το βρετανικό κοινοβούλιο το 1922. Οι ερωτοαπαντήσεις δείχνουν οτι η Patriotic S.S. ήταν ελληνικών συμφερόντων και το SHEFFIELD ταξίδευε ναυλωμένο σε αυτήν:



Vice-Admiral Sir R. HALL asked the President of the Board of Trade if, he will state by what authority the ships of the Patriotic Steamship Company's fleet fly the red ensign; what is the nationality of the directors; whether the shares are held by British subjects; whether any of the officers or men on board the ships are British subjects; and, if so, how many in each ship?



Mr. A. HERBERT (http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/people/hon-aubrey-herbert) asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that the Greek Patriotic Steamship Company fly the red ensign but carry no British officer; has his Department any record of legal action recently taken against the Greek captain of the ss. "Sheffield" of the Patriotic line; and, if so, of what nature?



§ (http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1922/jul/26/patriotic-steamship-company#S5CV0157P0_19220726_HOC_220) Sir W. MITCHELL-THOMSON (http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/people/sir-william-mitchell-thomson) The Patriotic Steamship Company is a Greek, not a British company, and vessels owned by the company are therefore not entitled to British registration or to fly the British flag. As the company is a foreign one, I am not in a position to give the information asked for in the latter part of the first question. The master of the "Sheffield," named Evangelinos, who claims to be a naturalised British subject, was recently sentenced to five years' imprisonment by His Majesty's Supreme Court at Constantinople for rape.



Sir R. HALL May I ask whether the s.s. "Sheffield," belonging to the Patriotic Line, was flying the red ensign at the time she was under this man's command?



§ (http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1922/jul/26/patriotic-steamship-company#S5CV0157P0_19220726_HOC_222) Sir W. MITCHELL-THOMSON (http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/people/sir-william-mitchell-thomson) I am not quite certain what the position is about the "Sheffield." As far as I know, it is not owned by the Patriotic Line. It appears, from the latest particulars, to be on time charter. I am, however, making further inquiries.


Ένα χρόνο αργότερο το SHEFFIELD προσάραξε εκούσια στη Χίο εξαιτίας μια πυρκαγιάς στα αμπάρια του:
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Με την ευκαιρία να πούμε οτι το πλοίο έχει πλέον και σελίδα στη wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Sheffield_(1877))

Ellinis
30-04-2023, 19:17
Η είδηση της πώλησης του SHEFFIELD σε Πέρσες γράφτηκε στον ελληνικό τύπο τον Απρίλη του 1924. Τον ίδιο χρόνο το πλοίο χρησίμευσε για μεταφορά μουσουλμάνων προσκυνητών για το ραμαζάνι, πάντα με το ίδιο ονομα.
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Να δούμε μια φωτογραφία του πλοίου ως SEYYAR από το βιβλίο "ΤURK ARMATORLERI TARIHI" του φίλτατου Osman Ondes

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