Νείλος [Κεφαλονιά - Douro, Alcira, Camilla C, Camilla, Cephalonia, Neilos]

[Nicholas Peppas]

The Early Years

Neilos or Cephalonia was a heroic Greek vessel of the early days of Greek Coastal shipping with a long history. Neilos was built as Douro by Harland & Wolff of Belfast in 1864! She had a tonnage of 556 tons, a length of 59.1 m, a beam of 8.7 m and a service speed of just 9 knots.

Miramar gives very incomplete data here



IDNo: 5611537 Year: 1864
Name: DOURO Launch Date: 11.64
Type: Cargo ship Date of completion: 21.11.64
Flag: GBR Keel:
Tons: 528 Link: 1600
DWT: Yard No: 31
Length overall: Ship Design:
LPP: Country of build: GBR
Beam: Builder: Harland & Wolff
Material of build: Location of yard: Belfast
Owner as Completed:



She was launched in November 1864 and delivered to J. Bibby, Sons & Co on November 21, 1864. She was in the route from Liverpool to Spain and Portugal. Her engine was compounded in 1871 by G. Forrester & Co. and she was sold to Frederick Leyland & Co. on January 1, 1873, retaining the same name.

In 1875 she was renamed Alcira and in 1881 Camilla C and then Camilla. During this period 1881-92 her owner was a certain Count of Genoa, who changed her quarters to luxury ones. Then, in 1892 she was sold to Pietro Milesi of Genoa (now known as Attilio Milesi http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/it~hf.html#ampf), who retained her name.

Presentation of the Bibby Line

Source: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/bibby.html


John Bibby purchased his first ship in 1805. The company traded initially to the Mediterranean and then expanded to South America, India and the Far East. A packet service to Dublin started in 1807. In 1850 the company bought their first steamship for the Mediterranean service and in 1857 the Levant Screw Steam Shipping Co was taken over. In 1873 Bibby Line passed control of their steamers to F. R. Leyland but in 1889 the Bibby family returned to the shipping business and formed Bibby Bros Ltd with a service to Rangoon **. In 1891 the company became the Bibby SS Co, working in conjunction with Henderson Bros. Ltd. and later became heavily involved in trooping, some ships becoming permanent troopships. The company name was changed to Bibby Line Ltd in 1931 but with advent of independence for Burma, trade declined and many ships were charterd out.** The Suez crisis of 1956 effectively finished the trade to Burma, but trooping work kept the company operational. Trooping by sea ended in 1962. Passenger services ceased in 1965 and the company joined the Seabridge consortium to operate chartered vessels and in 1971 took over Bristol City Line. The company still survives, managed from Douglas, Isle of Man and is Britain's oldest family controlled company.
Routes Steam:
* 1850-1873 Liverpool - Mediterranean
* 1854-1873 Liverpool - Levant - Black Sea and Crimean War transports.
* 1854-1873 Liverpool - Spain - Portugal.
* 1889-1892 Liverpool - Suez - Rangoon
* 1892-1971 Birkenhead - Marseilles - Suez - Port Sudan (1920) - Colombo - Rangoon.
* 1892-1914 Inbound to Tilbury - Continental ports - Middlesbrough - Liverpool.
* 1914-1962 Permanent trooping Liverpool / Southampton - Near East / Far East.
* 1925-1939 Liverpool - Gibraltar - Palma - Marseilles.
* 1935-1939 Birkenhead - Suez - Colombo - Cochin - Rangoon.
* 1971- Charter work.

** Readers are reminded that the ill-fated Herakleion was a Bibby ship.

A J.J. Bibby photograph

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Presentation of the Leyland Line

Source http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/leyland.html


Frederick Leyland was a partner in the firm of Bibby Bros and started up his own company in 1873 when 21 of Bibby Bros ships were transferred to the new company. Services to Boston started in 1876. With the death of Frederick Leyland in 1892, a new company Frederick Leyland & Co Ltd was formed and began a close association between Leyland and Furness Lines. Passenger services began in 1895, and in 1896 the founding of Wilson's & Furness-Leyland Line took place to run North Atlantic services. In 1899 the West India & Pacific SS Co was taken over and ran a service from the UK to Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico ports. A Liverpool to New York service was inaugurated in 1901 and joint services to the Mediterranean were operated with G. Papayanni, Liverpool. In 1902 the company came under the control of International Mercantile Marine Co which also took over American Line, Atlantic Transport, Dominion, Red Star and White Star Lines. A rationalization of services followed this take over and Leyland withdrew from the Mediterranean and transferred many ships to Ellerman Lines, and later withdrew from the New York service. The years following WWI saw many transfers between IMMC group companies and in 1927 Leyland's two remaining passenger ships went to Red Star Line. The economic depression of the 1930s caused the sale of many ships, and by 1935 Leyland's last ship was sold and the company ceased to exist.

Routes:

* 1873-1902 Liverpool - Mediterranean.
* 1875-1934 Liverpool - Boston - Philadelphia and Liverpool - Portland, Maine.
* 1893-1914 Liverpool - Boston
* 1900-1934 Liverpool / London - Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico.
* 1901-1903 Liverpool - New York.

[Nicholas Peppas]

The Greek Years

1. Valianos (1894-95) In 1894 Camilla was acquired by the Valianos family (known in the trade as the A. A. Vagliano fils) of Argostoli and renamed Cephalonia.

Presentation of the Valianos (Vagliano) Line

The company known as C.S. & A.S. Vagliano purchased its first ship, the 4,702-ton, 10-knot cargo ship the Keramiai from the Napier & Miller shipyard in Glasgow in 1893. Keramiai was the name of the village of origin of the Vagliano family. In 1907, the company was renamed A.S. Vagliano. A company named A.A. Vagliano fils, of Argostoli, purchased in 1894 the Camilla and renamed her Cephalonia.
Insignia of Valianos
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Two sections about the Valianos family
Source: G. Harlaftis, A History of Greek Owned Shipping
http://books.google.com/books?id=xLclXHW5RD4C&dq=history+of+Greek+Owned&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=gtZxDm9HYk&sig=0J8js0hCiqT4WwOyMyAS19R_KvQ&hl=en&ei=3fT0SdexBJ6EyAW_yvXDDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3
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A postcard of Argostoli, Valianos's seat, in 1916
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2. Diakakis (1895-1910) One year later, in 1895, she was sold to the Diakakis Line of Argostoli. The ship was named Kefallinia. Here a company schedule on August 13, 1908

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3. Greek Aktoploia (1910-13) In 1910 ownership was recorded as being with the Greek Aktoploïa with A. I. Diakakis as manager. The ship was already 46 years old and presented significant problems with often delays and cancellations of runs.

4. Ermoupolis (1913-14) In 1913, she was sold yet again in 1913 to the Ermoupolis Line of Syros, with E. A. Foustanos as manager. It was then that she was named Neilos (in foreign literature she often appears as Nilos). It is interesting that this same company had another Neilos from 1908-12 that they sold to Indian interests in 1912 (see next message below and also at http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showthread.php?p=258260#post258260).

5. (Italy) (1914-20) The next move is surprising. Sources claim that “in 1914 she was requisitioned by the Italian Government for use by the State Railways as a collier”. Now it is not clear how Italy could “requisition” a Greek ship that easily. But during that period, major repairs were done in her engines, perhaps even replacement.

6. Eustathiadis (1920-27) She returned to Greece and, at age 56, she was purchased by the Eustathiadis Line of N. J. Eustathiadis of Piraeus in 1920. As Neilos she was placed mostly in the Thessaloniki-Piraeus-Crete trade where she stayed most of the time. See, for example, the ad in Makedonia on July 7, 1923, which shows a very long and ambitious trip from Thessaloniki to Herakleion!

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(NB: It is interesting to note the name of the agent: Tzamtzis! Any relation?)

But she was also going from Thessaloniki to Kavala and Alexandroupolis as can be seen from the arrival/departure schedule of August 12, 1925.

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Neilos was broken up in Greece during 1927, at the advanced age of 63!.

[Nicholas Peppas]

The Other Neilos
(see also http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showthread.php?p=258260#post258260)

The other Neilos, as I like to call her, was built as the Tynesider by Schlesinger, Davis & Co, Newcastle in May 1888. She was a 1,378-ton ship owned by the Tyne Steamship Co of Newcastle, UK. In 1903 the company amalgamated with the Tees Union Shipping Co, Middlesbrough and became the Tyne-Tees Shipping Co. In 1908, Tynesider was sold to Greece (Ermoupolis Line) and named Neilos. In 1912 she was sold to India and named Faris. She was scrapped at Bombay in 1914.

[Ellinis]

Νικόλα, είχε κάποιο από τα δύο σχέση με αυτό που αναφέρεται σε κάποιες πηγές (πχ Τζαμτζής) ως "ΝΕΙΛΟΣ του Κρίνου";

[Nicholas Peppas]

I have seen it but I do not know. Are you aware of any Krinos shipowner?

[Ellinis]

Το μόνο που έχω βρει για την εταιρεία του Κρίνου είναι το παρακάτω, από μια παράθεση ακτοπλοϊκών πλοίων του 1914. Aυτό πρέπει να αποτέλεσε την πηγή και για τις αναφορές του Τζαμτζη.

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[Nicholas Peppas]

Το μόνο που έχω βρει για την εταιρεία του Κρίνου είναι το παρακάτω, από μια παράθεση ακτοπλοϊκών πλοίων του 1914. Aυτό πρέπει να αποτέλεσε την πηγή και για τις αναφορές του Τζαμτζη.

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Kai x0es to vrady eida oti o Tzamtzis sto en0eto tou Efoplisth 1997 anaferei ton "Neilo kai Eurwta tou Krinou".

[Nicholas Peppas]

Το μόνο που έχω βρει για την εταιρεία του Κρίνου είναι το παρακάτω, από μια παράθεση ακτοπλοϊκών πλοίων του 1914. Aυτό πρέπει να αποτέλεσε την πηγή και για τις αναφορές του Τζαμτζη.

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Please check the name Krinos in your copy of Ploto. I do not have one. Also check the possible relation to A Kapparis who owned Eurotas during that same period.

From my side, I am leaning towards the relation of Ath. Krinos with the Ermoupolis/Neorion Line. This is a wild guess but it is supported by two pieces of information from Gelina Harlaftis' book on A History of Greek-Owned Shipping. On page 356 http://books.google.com/books?id=xLclXHW5RD4C&dq=A+History+of+Greek-Owned+Shipping&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=gtZyFkaFVf&sig=x_QdPdnnBeCP8i46UPmTWi86-Mw&hl=en&ei=OfkGSrjQNI2stgfKotj5Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPA356,M1 she mentions an A. Krinos who had a 2,922-ton "steamship" in 1914. And on page 389 http://books.google.com/books?id=xLclXHW5RD4C&dq=A+History+of+Greek-Owned+Shipping&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=gtZyFkaFVf&sig=x_QdPdnnBeCP8i46UPmTWi86-Mw&hl=en&ei=OfkGSrjQNI2stgfKotj5Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPA389,M1
she mentions Krinos as a 1912 shipowner from Syros. But so does she do about Kapparis!

[Nicholas Peppas]

Please check the name Krinos in your copy of Ploto. I do not have one. Also check the possible relation to A Kapparis who owned Eurotas during that same period.

From my side, I am leaning towards the relation of Ath. Krinos with the Ermoupolis/Neorion Line. This is a wild guess but it is supported by two pieces of information from Gelina Harlaftis' book on A History of Greek-Owned Shipping. On page 356 http://books.google.com/books?id=xLclXHW5RD4C&dq=A+History+of+Greek-Owned+Shipping&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=gtZyFkaFVf&sig=x_QdPdnnBeCP8i46UPmTWi86-Mw&hl=en&ei=OfkGSrjQNI2stgfKotj5Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPA356,M1 she mentions an A. Krinos who had a 2,922-ton "steamship" in 1914. And on page 389 http://books.google.com/books?id=xLclXHW5RD4C&dq=A+History+of+Greek-Owned+Shipping&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=gtZyFkaFVf&sig=x_QdPdnnBeCP8i46UPmTWi86-Mw&hl=en&ei=OfkGSrjQNI2stgfKotj5Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPA389,M1
she mentions Krinos as a 1912 shipowner from Syros. But so does she do about Kapparis!

The recently uploaded information on the other Neilos gives the answer to this puzzle! http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showthread.php?p=258260#post258260

The Neilos of Krinos is that second one!

[Nicholas Peppas]

6. Eustathiadis (1920-27) She returned to Greece and, at age 56, she was purchased by the Eustathiadis Line of N. J. Eustathiadis of Piraeus in 1920. As Neilos she was placed mostly in the Thessaloniki-Piraeus-Crete trade where she stayed most of the time. See, for example, the ad in Makedonia on July 7, 1923, which shows a very long and ambitious trip from Thessaloniki to Herakleion! 36882
Το απιθανο ειναι οτι μεσα σε ενα χρονο, το πλοιο πηγε απο 100 σε 120 κρεββατια!!!. Εδω στις 8 Σεπτεμβριου 1924

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[Nicholas Peppas]

6. Eustathiadis (1920-27) She returned to Greece and, at age 56, she was purchased by the Eustathiadis Line of N. J. Eustathiadis of Piraeus in 1920. As Neilos she was placed mostly in the Thessaloniki-Piraeus-Crete trade where she stayed most of the time.

Neilos was broken up in Greece during 1927, at the advanced age of 63!.

Το Νειλος ειχε πολλα προβληματα οταν ανηκε στον Ευσταθιαδη

Εδω στις 6 Απριλιου 1922 επιβατες που πηγαιναν στην Λακωνια και Μεσσηνια παραπονιουνται για την κατασταση του πλοιου (Σκριπ, 6/4/1922)
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Στις 23 Αυγουστου 1922 (μερικες μερες πριν την μεγαλη καταστροφη) το πλοιο επιτασεται και παει στην Μικρα Ασια
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Επιστρεφει στις 6 Σεπτεμβριου με 300 προσφυγες
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Στις 20 Οκτωβριου εχει ξαναγυρισει στην παλια του γραμμη!
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Τον επομενο χρονο, στις 23 Ιουνιου 1923, κανει μεγαλο ταξιδι απο τον Πειραια στα Χανια, Αλεξανδρεια, Ροδο, αλλες νησους της Δωδεκανησου και τελικα Πειραια!
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[Nicholas Peppas]

Το Νειλος στις 5 Μαιου 1925. Τοτε το μικρο πλοιο εξυπηρετουσε τις Κυκλαδες

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[Nicholas Peppas]

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2. Diakakis (1895-1910) One year later, in 1895, she was sold to the Diakakis Line of Argostoli. The ship was named Kefallinia. Here a company schedule on August 13, 1908

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Να προσθεσουμε τωρα ωρισμενα νεα στοιχεια για το πλοιο του Διακακη, οταν ηταν στις Ελληνικες θαλασσες με το ονομα ΚΕΦΑΛΛΗΝΙΑ. Και ευχαριστω τον ellinis που μου θυμησε πιο πλοιο ηταν!

Το πλοιο ηταν ηδη 31 ετων οταν αποκτηθηκε απο την Ατμοπλοια Διακακη. Ειχε ηδη μια μεγαλη ιστορια στην Πορτογαλια, Ισπανια και Ιταλια με τα ονοματα Douro, Alcira και Camilla!

Στις 5 Οκτωβριου 1895 η εταιρεια Διακακη εμφανιζεται σε μια δημοπρασια των ατμοπλοικων γραμμων των νησων οπου μειοδοτησε!

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Ηδη στις Ελληνικες θαλασσες, το πλοιο αναφερεται στις 22 Νοεμβριου 1896 σαν να ειχε μεταφερει τον οπλαρχηγο Τακη (ενα απο τους οπλαρχηγους της Μακεδονιας πριν απο τον Μακεδονικο αγωνα) στην Αθηνα.

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Στο Σκριπ της 22ας Μαρτιου 1900 βρισκουμε μια μεγαλη ανακοινωση του Κεφαλληνια της εταιρειας Διακακη που διαφημιζει την δυνατοτητα να παει κανεις με τραινο μεχρι το Λαυριο και απο εκει με το Κεφαλληνια στην Τηνο για τον Ευαγγελισμο της Θεοτοκου. Οι τιμες εισιτηριων που αναφερονται ειναι αποκαλυπτικες.

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[Nicholas Peppas]

Δυο αρθρα της 4ης και 5ης Ιανουαριου 1901 ανεφεραν οτι το Κεφαλληνια εξωκειλε εξω απο την Στυλιδα.

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Λιγω αργοτερα, στις 11 Απριλιου 1901, το Κεφαλληνια μετεφερε τον και τα μελη της γερμανικης σχολης στους Δελφους. Οι Γερμανοι ειχαν μεγαλη αγαπη για τους Δελφους και προσεφεραν πολλα για τις ανασκαφες στο χωριο Καστρι της Βοιωτιας, κοντα στον σημερινο χωρο των Δελφων. Τον καιρο εκεινο −οπως εγραψα και αλλου− η προσβαση στους Δελφους γινοταν μεσω Ιτεας.

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Και στις 21 Απριλιου 1907 διαβαζουμε για ενα πολυ πιο σοβαρο ατυχημα του Κεφαλληνια στην Υδρα

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[Nicholas Peppas]

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2. Diakakis (1895-1910) One year later, in 1895, she was sold to the Diakakis Line of Argostoli. The ship was named Kefallinia.

3. Greek Aktoploia (1910-13) In 1910 ownership was recorded as being with the Greek Aktoploia with A. I. Diakakis as manager. The ship was already 46 years old and presented significant problems with often delays and cancellations of runs.

4. Ermoupolis (1913-14) In 1913, she was sold yet again in 1913 to the Ermoupolis Line of Syros, with E. A. Foustanos as manager. It was then that she was named Neilos (in foreign literature she often appears as Nilos).
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Ανακοινωση ενος δρομολογιου του πλοιου Κεφαλληνια της Ιονικης Ατμοπλοιας του Γιαννουλατου απο τις 12 Νοεμβριου 1914.

Τωρα το προβλημα ειναι οτι στην ιστορια του πλοιου αυτου δεν αναφερεται η Ιονικη πουθενα. Μαλιστα, υποτιθεται οτι το πλοιο λεγοταν ηδη Νειλος το 1914!

Κοιταξτε επισης κατι αλλο ενδιαφερον... Με το πλοιο αυτο μπορουσατε να πατε απο το Γυθειο στην Βενετια χωρις να αλλαξετε πλοιο!

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[τοξοτης]

Κατά 99,9% δε πρέπει να έχει σχέση με το αναφερόμενο.
Από περιέργεια μόνο , μιας και το βρήκα και είναι και συνώνυμο , ταξίδεψε σε Ελληνικές θάλασσες ή το όνομά του ήταν τυχαίο ???

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20Ca/slides/Cephalonia-01.html

[τοξοτης]

Υπάρχει επίσης η εξής απορία : Μπορεί το συν/νο να είναι η αρχική μορφή του πλοίου

DOURO

http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20D/slides/Douro-02.html

[Nicholas Peppas]

Κατά 99,9% δε πρέπει να έχει σχέση με το αναφερόμενο.
Από περιέργεια μόνο , μιας και το βρήκα και είναι και συνώνυμο , ταξίδεψε σε Ελληνικές θάλασσες ή το όνομά του ήταν τυχαίο ???




Νομιζω οτι το ειναι το Cephalonia υπερωκεανειο της Cunard του 1882 που βυθιστηκε στο λιμανι το 1904.

Οσο για το Douro, υπαρχουν πολλα.. Μπορει να ειναι το γερμανικο της Hansa η το πλοιο των Ellerman, ποιος ξερει!

[Ellinis]

Να προσθέσουμε στο ιστορικό του πλοίο οτι στο τέλος του 1921 το ΝΕΙΛΟΣ ναυλώθηκε από την Ατμοπλοΐα Παπαγιαννάκη για να κάνει το ταξίδι - γύρος της Πελοποννήσου.
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Με την ευκαιρία να γράψουμε οτι όταν ονομαζόταν CAMILLA δεν ανήκε σε κάποιον κόμη της Γένοβας αλλά στο γενοβέζο εφοπλιστή Ο.Conte.


In 1875 she was renamed Alcira and in 1881 Camilla C and then Camilla. During this period 1881-92 her owner was a certain Count of Genoa, who changed her quarters to luxury ones.
Aυτό αναφέρεται και στο σύντομο ιστορικό του πλοίου στη σελίδα red-duster.co.uk (http://DOURO (2) was built in 1864 by Harland & Wolff at Belfast with a tonnage of 556grt, a length of 195ft 11in, a beam of 27ft 1in and a service speed of 9 knots. She was launched in November 1864 and delivered to J. Bibby, Sons & Co on 21st November for their Iberian peninsular services. Compounded by G. Forrester & Co. in 1871 she was sold to Frederick Leyland & Co. on 1st January 1873. In 1875 she was renamed Alcira and later in that decade Camilla C and then Camilla for her owner O. Conte of Genoa. She was sold to P. Milesi of Genoa in 1892 who retained her name but when she was acquired by A. A. Vagliano fils of Argostoli in 1894 her name was changed to Cephalonia. Five years later she was sold to A. I. Diakakis of Argostoli and in 1910 ownership was recorded as being with La Navigation Hellenique with A. I. Diakakis as manager. She was sold yet again in 1913 to Cie de Nav. a Vapeur 'Ermopolis' of Syra, with E. A. Foustanos as manager, and renamed Nilos. In 1914 she was requisitioned by the Italian Government for use by the State Railways as a collier. She returned to the commercial ownership of N. J. Eustathiadis of Piraeus in 1920 as the Nilos and was broken up in Greece during 1927.) :

DOURO (2) was built in 1864 by Harland & Wolff at Belfast with a tonnage of 556grt, a length of 195ft 11in, a beam of 27ft 1in and a service speed of 9 knots. She was launched in November 1864 and delivered to J. Bibby, Sons & Co on 21st November for their Iberian peninsular services. Compounded by G. Forrester & Co. in 1871 she was sold to Frederick Leyland & Co. on 1st January 1873. In 1875 she was renamed Alcira and later in that decade Camilla C and then Camilla for her owner O. Conte of Genoa. She was sold to P. Milesi of Genoa in 1892 who retained her name but when she was acquired by A. A. Vagliano fils of Argostoli in 1894 her name was changed to Cephalonia. Five years later she was sold to A. I. Diakakis of Argostoli and in 1910 ownership was recorded as being with La Navigation Hellenique with A. I. Diakakis as manager. She was sold yet again in 1913 to Cie de Nav. a Vapeur 'Ermopolis' of Syra, with E. A. Foustanos as manager, and renamed Nilos. In 1914 she was requisitioned by the Italian Government for use by the State Railways as a collier. She returned to the commercial ownership of N. J. Eustathiadis of Piraeus in 1920 as the Nilos and was broken up in Greece during 1927.

Eπίσης το παρακάτω ποστ αφορά το άλλο ΚΕΦΑΛΛΗΝΙΑ (http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showthread.php?98811-%CA%E5%F6%E1%EB%EB%E7%ED%DF%E1-Ville-de-Cette-Polis-Mytilinis-Argostolion-Kephallinia-Firuzan&highlight=douro).

Ανακοινωση ενος δρομολογιου του πλοιου Κεφαλληνια της Ιονικης Ατμοπλοιας του Γιαννουλατου απο τις 12 Νοεμβριου 1914.

Τωρα το προβλημα ειναι οτι στην ιστορια του πλοιου αυτου δεν αναφερεται η Ιονικη πουθενα. Μαλιστα, υποτιθεται οτι το πλοιο λεγοταν ηδη Νειλος το 1914!

Κοιταξτε επισης κατι αλλο ενδιαφερον... Με το πλοιο αυτο μπορουσατε να πατε απο το Γυθειο στην Βενετια χωρις να αλλαξετε πλοιο!

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[the yard]

http://www.theyard.info/ships/ships.asp?entryid=31

[τοξοτης]

http://www.theyard.info/ships/ships.asp?entryid=31

Έχω την εντύπωση ότι το παρακάτω ΟΜΟΙΑΖΕΙ με το αναφερόμενο στην παραπάνω ιστοσελίδα.

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http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20D/slides/Douro-13.jpg