Nicholas Peppas
27-06-2009, 07:39
The first mention of Elda in these pages was by Ellinis on 8 March 2009 in http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=178916&postcount=7 He said
Στη λίστα με τα πρώην Αυστρο-Ουγγαρέζικα να προσθέσω και άλλα δύο:
Το ΤΗΝΟΣ του Εμπειρίκου και προηγούμενα ΕΛΔΑ της Αχαϊκής Ατμοπλοϊας. Είχε ναυπηγηθεί στη Σκωτία το 1877 ως NORTH WESTERN (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=1810). Ταξίδεψε και για την Ατμοπλοϊα Σάμου του Ιγγλέση ώσπου αποσύρθηκε το 1932 και διαλύθηκε -58 ετών! - το 1935/36.
Επίσης μας ήρθε το αδελφάκι του ΤΗΝΟΣ που ονομάστηκε ΕΛΕΝΑ, της Αχαϊκής επίσης.Το ΕΛΕΝΑ είχε ναυπηγηθεί ως NORTH EASTERN (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=1806) αλλά δεν μακροημέρευσε στην Ελλάδα.
Η Αχαϊκή Ατμοπλοϊα πρέπει να ήταν σημαντική στην εποχή της. Ανήκε στους Murphy & Son and Crowe & Stevens και είχε την έδρα της στην Πάτρα. Τους ιδιοκτητες της τους είχαμε ξανασυναντήσει (http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=166255&postcount=3)ως γενικούς πράκτορες της Unione Austro-Americana στην Πάτρα. Ίσως για αυτό και να αγοράσαν τα δυο πλοία απο τη συγκεκριμένη εταιρεία.
And then Appia_1978 had another article the next day in http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=181339&postcount=13
Elda was built as North Western by Inglis of Pointhouse UK in 1878. She had just 686 tons. She belonged to the Ardrossan Shipping Co. Here are her characteristics from Miramar
IDNo: 1077187 Year: 1878
Name: NORTH WESTERN Launch Date: 4.12.77
Type: Passenger/cargo Date of completion: 2.78
Flag: GBR Keel:
Tons: 686 Link: 1566
DWT: 0 Yard No: 140
Length overall: Ship Design:
LPP: 64.4 Country of build: GBR
Beam: 8.6 Builder: Inglis
Material of build: I Location of yard: Pointhouse
Number of screws/Mchy/ Speed(kn): 1C-
Owner as Completed: Ardrossan Sg Co, Ardrossan
Subsequent History: 82 GRAMPUS - 07 ELDA - 20 TENOS
Disposal Data: BU 1936
Name Tons Change Main Owner
NORTH WESTERN 686 Ardrossan Sg Co
GRAMPUS 686 1882 G.& J.Burns
ELDA 686 1907 Unione Austriaca
TENOS 686 1920 Embiricos Bros
This information is not exactly accurate. While the first two names are correct, Grampus was sold by the Burns Shipping Co to Unione Austriaca in 1907. They named her Elda and they in turn sold her to Murphy & Son and Crowe & Stevens in 1909! The latter were based in London and Patras and has created the Ahaiki Atmoploia, whose passenger and mixed ships were all starting with El! (for example, Elsie, Elda, Eleusis, Ellinis). About Murphy & Son and Crowe & Stevens we have originally written in http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=215202&postcount=6
Elda has a great career for Achaiki. Here are a few of her routes during her years in Morphy's company.
Here is a typical ad of Elda from August 25, 1911
45945
In 1915 she is still doing Piraeus, Chios, Mytilene (August 16, 1915)
46116
Then, on July 16, 1919 she has been demoted to Piraeus, Myrina, Thassos and Kavala, an unusual Northern Aegean route. And on February 20, 1920 she is doing the Crete route
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Στη λίστα με τα πρώην Αυστρο-Ουγγαρέζικα να προσθέσω και άλλα δύο:
Το ΤΗΝΟΣ του Εμπειρίκου και προηγούμενα ΕΛΔΑ της Αχαϊκής Ατμοπλοϊας. Είχε ναυπηγηθεί στη Σκωτία το 1877 ως NORTH WESTERN (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=1810). Ταξίδεψε και για την Ατμοπλοϊα Σάμου του Ιγγλέση ώσπου αποσύρθηκε το 1932 και διαλύθηκε -58 ετών! - το 1935/36.
Επίσης μας ήρθε το αδελφάκι του ΤΗΝΟΣ που ονομάστηκε ΕΛΕΝΑ, της Αχαϊκής επίσης.Το ΕΛΕΝΑ είχε ναυπηγηθεί ως NORTH EASTERN (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=1806) αλλά δεν μακροημέρευσε στην Ελλάδα.
Η Αχαϊκή Ατμοπλοϊα πρέπει να ήταν σημαντική στην εποχή της. Ανήκε στους Murphy & Son and Crowe & Stevens και είχε την έδρα της στην Πάτρα. Τους ιδιοκτητες της τους είχαμε ξανασυναντήσει (http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=166255&postcount=3)ως γενικούς πράκτορες της Unione Austro-Americana στην Πάτρα. Ίσως για αυτό και να αγοράσαν τα δυο πλοία απο τη συγκεκριμένη εταιρεία.
And then Appia_1978 had another article the next day in http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=181339&postcount=13
Elda was built as North Western by Inglis of Pointhouse UK in 1878. She had just 686 tons. She belonged to the Ardrossan Shipping Co. Here are her characteristics from Miramar
IDNo: 1077187 Year: 1878
Name: NORTH WESTERN Launch Date: 4.12.77
Type: Passenger/cargo Date of completion: 2.78
Flag: GBR Keel:
Tons: 686 Link: 1566
DWT: 0 Yard No: 140
Length overall: Ship Design:
LPP: 64.4 Country of build: GBR
Beam: 8.6 Builder: Inglis
Material of build: I Location of yard: Pointhouse
Number of screws/Mchy/ Speed(kn): 1C-
Owner as Completed: Ardrossan Sg Co, Ardrossan
Subsequent History: 82 GRAMPUS - 07 ELDA - 20 TENOS
Disposal Data: BU 1936
Name Tons Change Main Owner
NORTH WESTERN 686 Ardrossan Sg Co
GRAMPUS 686 1882 G.& J.Burns
ELDA 686 1907 Unione Austriaca
TENOS 686 1920 Embiricos Bros
This information is not exactly accurate. While the first two names are correct, Grampus was sold by the Burns Shipping Co to Unione Austriaca in 1907. They named her Elda and they in turn sold her to Murphy & Son and Crowe & Stevens in 1909! The latter were based in London and Patras and has created the Ahaiki Atmoploia, whose passenger and mixed ships were all starting with El! (for example, Elsie, Elda, Eleusis, Ellinis). About Murphy & Son and Crowe & Stevens we have originally written in http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=215202&postcount=6
Elda has a great career for Achaiki. Here are a few of her routes during her years in Morphy's company.
Here is a typical ad of Elda from August 25, 1911
45945
In 1915 she is still doing Piraeus, Chios, Mytilene (August 16, 1915)
46116
Then, on July 16, 1919 she has been demoted to Piraeus, Myrina, Thassos and Kavala, an unusual Northern Aegean route. And on February 20, 1920 she is doing the Crete route
4611746118