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Επιστροφή στο Forum : Ντολόρες [Queen of Scots, Dolores]



Nicholas Peppas
29-08-2009, 17:26
A small passenger ship under Greek ownership but with Panamanian flag, Dolores crossed the Mediterranean and the Aegean for three or four years in the post-1947 period which, as Ellinis pointed out in the Terpsichore article, was a period of great need of ships from West to East Mediterranean Sea. See http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=246315&postcount=4


Κάποια στιγμή ανελκύστηκε και το 1947 το αγόρασε κάποιος Δανιέλλος που το επισκεύασε. Έκανε επίσης και ένα δρομολόγιο από Αλεξάνδρεια, Βυρηττό προς Πειραιά.
Δεν ήταν λίγα τα καραβάκια είχαν δρομολογηθεί το 46/50 μεταξύ Αλεξάνδρειας και Πειραιά, τα περισσότερα μικρά ή παμπάλαια αποσύρθηκαν σύντομα.


Dolores was built at the Fairfield Govan shipyards as the yacht Queen of Scots in March 1904. She had 606 tons, 53.5 m length and 8.7 m width. By comparison, she was about 15% shorter than Cadio that was doing similar routes in 1948. She belonged to William Allan Coats, Glasgow
but transferred to Thomas Coats in 1926. In 1931 she became yet another yacht of the famous Anthony Drexel of Philadelphia (see http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showthread.php?t=57229&highlight=drexel) In 1939 she went to M. Graham White of Southampton, Long Island

In 1947 she was bought by Manzanilla Navigation Company of Panama, a company belonging to the successors of the Kyriakides family (see http://www.nautilia.gr/forum/showpost.php?p=200593&postcount=3) and was converted for passengers. She was broken up at Savona in May 1952, at age 48.

Miramar's entry is as follows:



IDNo: 1119131 Year: 1904
Name: QUEEN OF SCOTS Launch Date: 20.3.04
Type: Yacht Date of completion: 5.04
Flag: GBR Keel:
Tons: 606 Link: 1556
DWT: Yard No: 436
Length overall: Ship Design:
LPP: 53.5 Country of build: GBR
Beam: 8.7 Builder: Fairfield
Material of build: Location of yard: Govan
Number of screws/Mchy/
Speed(kn): 2T-
Owner as Completed: W.A. Coats, Glasgow
Subsequent History: 47 DOLORES
Disposal Data: BU Savona 27.4.52


See also http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuil...hip.asp?id=793 (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=793)

Here is an ad of Dolores on June 26, 1947

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Ellinis
30-08-2009, 11:51
Toν Οκτώβρη του 1948 το καραβάκι ναυλώθηκε για ένα ταξίδι Μασσαλία-Αλβανία. Μόλις το έμαθε το πλήρωμα αρκετοί την έκαναν με ελαφρά πηδηματάκια για ευνόητους λόγους. Το ταξίδι όμως πρέπει να έγεινε.

Nicholas Peppas
19-09-2009, 22:17
Here are some more advertisements of Dolores

One is from August 15, 1947 with the ship going to Rhodes, Lemessos, Beirut, Haifa, Port Said and Alexandria

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The other is of September 24, 1947

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November 7, 1947

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... and February 18, 1948

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Nicholas Peppas
03-07-2010, 07:59
Σπανιο ευρημα... Το Dolores


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Ellinis
12-04-2011, 10:20
Μια φωτογραφία του πλοίου ως θαλαμηγού QUEEN OF SCOTS, όταν ο ιδιοκτήτης του έψαχνε χαμένους θυσαυρούς! Τότε διατηρούσε την κλασσική πλώρη κλίπερ που όπως φαίνεται στη φωτογραφία που έχει ανεβασει ο Νίκος, αργότερα άλλαξε.

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BOUND FOR 'TREASURE ISLAND.'
The Queen of Scots, which is taking members of an English expedition to Cocos Island where it is. hoped to recover great wealth reputedly left there by buccaneers.
The West Australian, Friday 21 September 1934.

Περισσότερες λεπτομέρειες για το κυνήγι του θυσαυρού υπάρχουν εδώ (http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP19341017.2.165).

Nicholas Peppas
17-10-2013, 05:29
The very characteristic structure of the Queen of Scots of 1904 can be seen in this photo from the 1930s. The ship carrie son it an Avro 616 Avian IVM aircraft http://peggybawn.wordpress.com/2013/08/30/those-magnificent-men/

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The relevant article says:


The steam yacht, Queen of Scots (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=793), was one of the last of G.L. Watson’s designs to be launched – by Fairfields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield_Shipbuilding_and_Engineering_Company), of Govan, Glasgow – before his premature death at the age of just 53, in 1904. She was commissioned by William A. Coats, of the Paisley threadmaking dynasty, and owned at the time of the treasure hunting expedition by Philadelphia financier, J. Anthony Drexel Jr, who, according to one newspaper report, may have shipped aboard to Cocos Island. Drexel was an aviator, and her subsequent owner/broker was another larger than life character closely associated with the pioneering days of aviation (via his brother Claud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Grahame-White)), motor racing, and superyacht charter/brokerage… Montague Grahame-White (http://www.rvondeh.dircon.co.uk/vehicles/grahamwhite.html). Like many superannuated steam yachts, Queen of Scots ended her days post WWII in the eastern Mediterranean as the Greek-owned, Panamanian-flagged ferry/cargo vessel Dolores. She was broken up in 1952.


And here are some relevant schedules as Dolores from 19/6/1947 and 10/6/1948 both from Kathimerini.

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Ellinis
29-01-2014, 21:07
Mια φωτογραφία της θαλαμηγού QUEEN OF SCOTS όταν είχε ακόμη πλώρη κλίπερ και μπαστούνι.

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πηγή (http://70point8percent.blogspot.gr/2012_04_01_archive.html)

Ellinis
06-04-2018, 11:28
Το DOLORES σε μια σπάνια - καθώς έγχρωμη - φωτογραφία του Πειραιά από το 1949. Δεμένο με πρυμάτσες στο Ξαβέρι και δίπλα του φαίνεται το ναυάγιο του ΚΥΡΑΠΑΝΑΓΙΑ ΙΙ, θύμα της έκρηξης του CLAN FRASER (σχετικά εδώ (https://forum.nautilia.gr/showthread.php?86948-%C9%F3%F4%EF%F1%DF%E1-%F4%EF%F5-%EB%E9%EC%E1%ED%E9%EF%FD-%F4%EF%F5-%D0%E5%E9%F1%E1%E9%DC&p=600349#post600349)).
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