Ξένα υπερωκεάνεια για Έλληνες μετανάστες [Foreign liners for Greek Immigrants]

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Από το ψαχτήρι του google φωτογραφίες πλοίων που μετέφεραν τους συμπατριώτες μας στην Αμερική

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[Nicholas Peppas]

Here is an interesting contribution from Patras
Source: http://2gym-patras.ach.sch.gr/Patras'port.htm

84] Η μετανάστευση για τον νέο κόσμο γινόταν διαμέσου Πατρών. " Πάτρα -Αμερική" ή Patras=America. Πώς ονομάζονταν τα πρώτα πλοία της διαδρομής Πάτρα-Αμερική. Ποιοι ήταν οι πιο ονομαστοί ναυτιλιακοί πράκτορες εκείνης της εποχής;

Η μετανάστευση για το Νέο Κόσμο γινόταν διαμέσου Πατρών. Τα πρώτα πλοία που έκαναν τη διαδρομή Πάτρα – Αμερική ήταν : «Βουλκάνια» , «Σατούρνια», «Attivita», «Γκέρτη», «Σοφία Χόεμπεργκ», «Λάουρα», «Φραντσέσκα», «Ευγενία», «Μπελ Επόκ», «Μάρθα», «Βέρνα».

Τα πιο ονομαστά πρακτορεία της εποχής ήταν :
«Αυστροαμερικάνα» (των Γ.Μόρφυ και υιός)
«Αδελφοί Γεωργιάδη»
«Κρωββ»
«Στιβενς»
«Αμερικαν Λαινς»
«Εθνική ατμοπλοϊα Ελλάδος»
«Ελληνική υπερωκεάνιος ατμοπλοία»
«Ηνωμένα πρακτορεία δι Αμερική»

I would like to add two photos about Saturnia and Vulcania because these two ships were so integrally associated with the Patraic life... they were important connections with the western world and New York as we said elsewhere.

First a newly acquired postcard of Saturnia and then a nice first class bedroom in the Vulcania. Good old times... before plastic became the staple of passenger liners

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[Nicholas Peppas]

Fabre had an ambitious schedule and as late as 1928 they were serving not only Piraeus but also Thessaloniki and Constantinople. For example, in 1931 Patria was doing cruises from New York, Boston, Ponta Delgada (Azores), Lisbon, Tangier, Algiers, Palermo, Naples, Villefranche, Messina, Piraeus, Constantinople, Beirut, Haifa, Jaffa, Port Said, Alexandria, Malta, Syracuse (Sicily) and Marseilles.
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Patria was the third ship with this name; she was a 1914 ship of 11,885 tons. She was chartered in 1932 by Messageries and purchased our ight bu them in 1940 only to be lost by sabotage in Haifa, Palestine in 1940 with approximately 280 dead.

Those who wish to read the tragic story of the end of Patria can check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster

It is to be noted that Patria was carrying the passengers of three other smaller (Greek) ships, Milos, Pacific and Atlantic that were unable to continue to the beaches of Palestine.

The refugees from the Pacific and Milos were soon transferred to the Patria. The Atlantic arrived on November 24, 1940 and the transfer of eight hundred of its 1,645 passengers began.

Read also http://www.jewishmag.com/46mag/patria/patria.htm

For the record, Pacific of Avgerinos was the former Popi and Epirus of Potamianos.
Atlantic of Avgerinos was the former Adriatikos of Yannoulatos
Finally Milos was the former Argolis of Panhellenic and then Maria L of Lykouris.

[Nicholas Peppas]

I would like to add two photos about Saturnia and Vulcania because these two ships were so integrally associated with the Patraic life... they were important connections with the western world and New York as we said elsewhere.

Hello! I just discovered this piece of news from Eleu0eria of September 12, 1946! So, Vulcania and Saturnia were going to be given to us as War reparations? Frankly, I prefer we got the four Italians instead!

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[Nicholas Peppas]

In today's (September 10, 2009) Austin Statesman newspaper, there is a major announcement of a new exhibition at the Bullock Museum of Austin, Texas that describes how European immigrants arrived to Galveston, Texas (the port of Houston) in the late 19th and very early 20th century. These were mostly German and Czech immigrants, but also a few Greeks...

Here is the interior cover of the newspaper

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In central Texas we have large communities of Germans and Czechs. Close to Austin (on hill country) we have Fredrickburg, New Braunfels, Bremen and other Germanic names... And in October, we celebrate Octoberfest!

As for Greeks, there is a Greek consulate in Houston and more than 500 families in the Greek Orthodox churches of the area... Who knows how many Greek Americans of Greek descend.

And here is an ad (from today's paper) of the Diederichsen Line of Kiel, Germany, that seemed to be going from Germany and Belgium directly to Galveston!

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[Nicholas Peppas]

Here are some nice sites and better reproductions from the paper

http://www.austin360.com/arts/conten...galveston.html

Please notice the statement about the son of an illiterate Greek immigrant in the middle of the article....

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By the way, contrary to what you see, Lauenburg was only 2,100 tons!!! What great artists.. misleading the poor emigrants!

IDNo: 5615407 Year: 1886 Name: BAHIA Launch Date: 20.7.86 Type: Passenger/cargo Date of completion: 4.9.86 Flag: DEU Keel:

Tons: 2156 Link: 1277 DWT:
Yard No: 495 Length overall:
Ship Design:
LPP:
Country of build: GBR Beam:
Builder: Armstrong Mitchell Material of build: is Location of yard: Low Walker Number of
screws/Mchy/
Speed(kn): 1T-

Naval or paramilitary marking :
A: * End: 1930
Subsequent History:

97 LAUENBURG - 03 MOBILA - 18 SIDI MABROUCK
Disposal Data:

BU 1930

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[Nicholas Peppas]

Δεν μπορω να ξερω αν Ελληνες μεταναστες εφυγαν για την Αμερικη με το Σειριος (Sirius) η με τον Μεγαλον Δυτικον (Great Western) αλλα αυτη η ανακοινωσις δημοσιευμενη στην Αποθηκη των Ωφελιμων Γνωσεων του 1838 ειναι πολυ ενδιαφερουσα... Φυσικα οσοι ενδιαφερομαστε για την μεταναστευση στον Δυτικο κοσμο ξερουμε πολυ καλα αυτα τα δυο πλοια...

Σειριος (Sirius)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Sirius_(1837)

Μεγας Δυτικος (Great Western)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Great_Western

The Great Western, a paddlewheel steamer that was the second steamship to cross the Atlantic. The ship arrived in New York harbor in the afternoon of April 28, 1838, only only four hours behind the paddlewheeler Sirius, the first steamer to make the Atlantic crossing.

Αλλα το αμιμητο ειναι η γλωσσα!

Τα πλοια πηγαιναν απο το Βρίστολον εις το Νεοβόρακον!!! Μην ψαχνετε πολυ! Απο το Bristol της Αγγλιας στην Νεα Yορκη!!!!

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Μεγας Δυτικος (Great Western)
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[Nicholas Peppas]

The third ship was Sofia Hohenberg. She was built in Cantiere del'Arsenale of Muggia/Trieste in 1905, a true immigrant ship with 5,491 tons. She had length of 360 ft with beam of 48 ft. She had one funnel and a single screw. She could carry 1,550 passengers in third class, just 50 in second and 30 in first, She was launched in September 1905 and for two years she did 12 trips to New York starting from Trieste and often stopping at Patras, Palermo and/or Messina. But she was slow.... just 12 knots!

In August 1907 she was transferred to the New Orleans-South American route, although New Orleans was in the route for just one year (1907-08. Her last trips on this route (that I could find) were in 1913.

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By the way, recently I went through her passenger lists on the way to New York City. She seemed to be the favorite ship of emigrants from Banat, Bukovina, Bosnia, Montenegro and Western Romania. There were, however, a few Greeks in her lists.

Here is a rare ad of Sofia Hohenberg going from Patras to New Orleans!!!
Date: October 9, 1907!!

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[Nicholas Peppas]

To Belvedere που αναφέρει η αφίσα επίσης πέρναγε από την Πάτρα.
Kαι η φωτογραφία του:
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A nice ad from the Greek paper Embros of February 23, 1914. Belvedere was going to New York (from Patras!) in the middle of the war!!

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To Belvedere που αναφέρει η αφίσα επίσης πέρναγε από την Πάτρα.

Τα παρακάτω απο το theshiplists.com



Kαι η φωτογραφία του:
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Θα μου επιτρέψεις , τώρα που τη βρήκα , να βάλω την ίδια φωτογραφία λίγο πιό μεγάλη.
http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20...vedere-02.html