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Θέμα: Ιστορικές φωτο του Καστελλόριζου [Historic photos of Megisti]

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    Προεπιλογή Ιστορικές φωτο του Καστελλόριζου [Historic photos of Megisti]

    Καστελόριζο 1938

    Το πλοίο είναι το Fiume της Adriatica

    Fiume.JPG

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    Aπο τα "Ελληνικα Υπερωκεανεια" του Α. Τζαμτζη ειναι η φωτο?
    [FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]FINNPARTNER (1966) OY Wartsila AB, Helsinki #380[/SIZE][/FONT]

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    Συγγνώμη, παρέλειψη εκ μέρους μου ...

    Όχι, είναι από το λεύκωμα της Ένωσης Εφοπλιστών.

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    Προεπιλογή Ιστορικές φώτο από τα υπόλοιπα λιμάνια

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    Καστελόριζο 1938

    Το πλοίο είναι το Fiume της Adriatica

    Fiume.JPG
    This photograph brought back many memories.... It has appeared in numerous books, including the 1997 Kathimerini insert on ocean liners,
    but it is rarely accompanied by the name of the ship (Fiume) that Appia_1978 nicely presents here. In fact, the picture has accompanied articles about Greeks going to Australia. In the past, its caption has given the impression that these were traveling thousands of miles with this ship!!

    The book of Reginald Appleyard and John Yannakis Greek Pioneers in Western Australia (Univ Western Australia Publishers, Perth, Australia 2002) has a wonderful description and discussion of how Castellorizians went to Perth and Fremantle, Australia, especially during the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. And here is why Fiume becomes important to us Greeks!

    Fiume was a small vessel serving the Dodecanesos during the 1930s when the islands were under Italian occupation. She belonged to the Adriatica di navigazione S.p.a. (based in Venice, Italy). She was built in 1926 by Costiera of Fiume. [For those who do not remember the old Italian names, Fiume is today's Rijeka in Croatia]. She had 654 tons and only 14 cabins for passengers. Yet, she could accommodate more than 250. She had two propellers and dimensions of 48.2 m by 7.80 m by 3.70 m.

    Originally assigned to short routes in Eastern Adriatica (mostly Venice, Trieste, Fiume (now Rijeka), Pola (now Pula), all the way down to Spalato (now Split)) she was moved to Rodos in 1937. A nice Web site has a summary of all the ships of this regional company (Adriatica) owned in teh Mediterranean sea http://www.naviearmatori.net/html/ve...-ita-26-0.html

    Between 1937 and June 1940 Fiume was running the routes No 61 (Rodos-Kos-Astypalaia every other week), No 62 (Rodos-Castelorizo weekly) and No 63 (Rodos-Kassos weekly or every other week). In July 1940 she starting running routes No 1 (Rodos-Kos-Kalymnos-Leros) and No 2 (Rodos-Carpathos). Clearly she was... the Panormitis of that period!...

    It was during that period that she carried many Greeks from Castellorizo to Rodos, thus becoming a popular feeder for Greek immigration to Australia

    After August 15, 1940, Fiume was only running the most important military and civilian routes in Dodecanesos. The end of Fiume is very well known to those who have read the Greek naval history. On September 24, 1942, while carrying 249 civilian and military passengers and 38 crew members on the way to Symi, Fiume was torpedoed by the Greek submarine Nereus (under Cdr Al. Rallis) in Punta Sabbia about 9 km from the port of Rodos. Eyewitness accounts indicated that she was lost "in 25 seconds" a rather unbelievably short time. A total of 214 person died according to Italian sources [There are numerous Italian sites about this event in www.google.it] The official Greek Navy site http://www.hellenicnavy.gr/dy_y4.asp indicates that the Fiume was carrying mostly Italian soldiers that were replacing the Italian unit of Symi. The same site lists the vessel at 1500 tons, a number that is repeated in http://enkripto.blogspot.com/2008/10...post_4955.html. The German site http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/42-09.htm lists her at 662 tons and reports 333 dead.

    It must be noted that Adriatica lost more than ten ships during that same period. They had the same fate as Fiume due to Greek or British submarine activity from Thessaloniki to Rodos and Tainaron.

    While Fiume's routes and travels in Dodecanesos were relatively short lived she has left an important imprint to the Greek-Australians, some of whom are still alive (2009) in Perth and Fremantle, as she was their first step to a new world and a new life...

    Greeks in Western Australia.jpg

    Fiume 1929.jpg

    Nereus.jpg

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    Πλήρης και απολαυστική η καταγραφή της ιστορίας και της σημασίας ενός κατά τα άλλα μικρού σκάφους. Προσωπικά δεν το είχα συνειδητοποιήσει πως το Fiume ήταν ο "Πανορμίτης" της προπολεμικής περιόδου!

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    Προεπιλογή Kastellorizo through the ages

    I have wanted to show some of my old photographs and postcards from Kastellorizo, this wonderful remote site of Greece. Kastellorizo (Megisti) has known several occupying forces including the Venetians, French, British, Turks and Italians. This strong and vibrant Greek community started losing its inhabitants when foreign policies, especially unusual Turkish pressure, forced many Kastellorizians to leave for other lands. Kastellorizians were always maritime people and loves to trade with boats. But when the Ottomans started forbidding them to use timber from the Turkish mountains (the Turkish town of Kas is only two miles away from the island), they had no choice but to leave...

    In their wonderful book Greek Pioneers in Western Australia (Univ Western Australia. Perth, Australia, 2002) Reginald Applegate and John Yannakis discuss how Kastellorizians emigrated to Fremantle and Perth as early as 1870. I have discussed this book above. Here I am adding a few pictures from it.

    First, here is the classic picture from 1890 which shows how active and busy the natural harbor was...

    Kastellorizo 1.jpg

    Then, here is an early Italian postcard when the island's name was Castelrosso!

    Kastellorizo 1920.JPG

    And here is a picture today

    Kastellorizo today.jpg

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    The Castellorizians abroad love their fatherland and have written many, many books about their history... Here are four of them

    Kastellorizo book 1.JPGKastellorizo book2.JPG

    Kastellorizo book3.JPGKastellorizo book4.JPG

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    And here are two more pictures from Kastellorizo from the very early 1990s, again from Appleyard's and Yannakis' book and the third from now... Pretty island!

    Kastellorizo 2.jpg
    Kastellorizo 3.jpg


    Kastellorizo today2.jpg

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    Η αγάπη των μεταναστών του Καστελλόριζου για την πατρίδα τους είναι πολύ μεγάλη.
    Το 19ο αιωνα οι Καστελλοριζιοι και οι Κασιωτες -μεταξύ άλλων- είχαν μεγάλους στόλους με ιστιοφόρα πλοία.
    Το πως το εμπόριο με αυτά τα σκάφη τους βοήθησε να αναπτύξουν το νησί τους, φαίνεται στα υπέροχα νεοκλασσικά σπίτια που έφτιαξαν και που ευτυχώς παραμένουν και σήμερα.
    Για την παρακμή της ναυτιλίας τους συντέλεσε και η εισαγωγή των ατμόπλοιων που οδήγησε στον σταδιακό αφανισμό των ιστιοφόρων. Τα μικρά νησιά δεν είχαν την τεχνογνωσία και τις υποδομές για να ακολουθήσουν στην εποχή του ατμού.

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    Η αγάπη των μεταναστών του Καστελλόριζου για την πατρίδα τους είναι πολύ μεγάλη.
    Το 19ο αιωνα οι Καστελλοριζιοι και οι Κασιωτες -μεταξύ άλλων- είχαν μεγάλους στόλους με ιστιοφόρα πλοία.
    Το πως το εμπόριο με αυτά τα σκάφη τους βοήθησε να αναπτύξουν το νησί τους, φαίνεται στα υπέροχα νεοκλασσικά σπίτια που έφτιαξαν και που ευτυχώς παραμένουν και σήμερα.
    Για την παρακμή της ναυτιλίας τους συντέλεσε και η εισαγωγή των ατμόπλοιων που οδήγησε στον σταδιακό αφανισμό των ιστιοφόρων. Τα μικρά νησιά δεν είχαν την τεχνογνωσία και τις υποδομές για να ακολουθήσουν στην εποχή του ατμού.
    Thanks for the kind remarks. Studying the history of Kastellorizo I realize how incomprehensibly ignorant was the attitude of the Greek governments (and public?) in the 1950s-80s period concerning our Acritan regions... They had abandoned Castellorizo, the lesser Dodecanesos, Thrace, NW Macedonia including Prespa, etc, in the name of modernization... These were the days that everybody wanted to say he/she was Athenian and that saying you were from the provinces (eparhiotis) was a curse and a stigma! It is really funny that it took the groups of German and Northern European tourists for us to realize what we have and what our patrimony is...

    Do you know that in 1969, just forty years ago, there was no direct connection (from Piraeus) to the lesser Cyclades (Irakleia, Koufonissia, Donousa, Schinousa), the lesser Dodecanesos (Lipsoi, Castellorizo) etc? Also in 1969 you couls not go from Thessaloniki to Lesvos but only via Piraeus and Herakleion- Thira was being discussed as a possible line...

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